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	Kommentare zu: Weiss Schwarz TCG for Magic Players	</title>
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		Von: Äbi		</title>
		<link>https://www.aarebogemagic.ch/2019/12/03/weiss-schwarz-tcg-for-magic-players/#comment-49</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Als Antwort auf &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.aarebogemagic.ch/2019/12/03/weiss-schwarz-tcg-for-magic-players/#comment-48&quot;&gt;ftt&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for taking your time to read the artikle and leave such a big comment! I would like to respond to the critisisms. I think they are all valid. 
The &quot;brewers paradise&quot; really depends on the series you&#039;re playing and even then, the brews will probably turn out worse than the meta decks of the series. With some series, this is almost impossible.
About card quality: I was more thinking about the card material and the foiling. MTG players are all too familiar with the curly foils and WS cards are in general much sturdier. But I see what you are saying, the original artwork is really nice and the quality in WS depends also on the sets (R.I.P. Haruhi).
I did not touch on the luck factor because I personally don&#039;t think it&#039;s that bad as people make it out to be. It&#039;s also a big controversy in the WS community, so I did not want to light that fire here too.
The economy is really bad, yes. Could have at least mentioned that in the card availability section.

Thank you again for reading!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Als Antwort auf <a href="https://www.aarebogemagic.ch/2019/12/03/weiss-schwarz-tcg-for-magic-players/#comment-48">ftt</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for taking your time to read the artikle and leave such a big comment! I would like to respond to the critisisms. I think they are all valid.<br />
The &#8222;brewers paradise&#8220; really depends on the series you&#8217;re playing and even then, the brews will probably turn out worse than the meta decks of the series. With some series, this is almost impossible.<br />
About card quality: I was more thinking about the card material and the foiling. MTG players are all too familiar with the curly foils and WS cards are in general much sturdier. But I see what you are saying, the original artwork is really nice and the quality in WS depends also on the sets (R.I.P. Haruhi).<br />
I did not touch on the luck factor because I personally don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s that bad as people make it out to be. It&#8217;s also a big controversy in the WS community, so I did not want to light that fire here too.<br />
The economy is really bad, yes. Could have at least mentioned that in the card availability section.</p>
<p>Thank you again for reading!</p>
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		Von: ftt		</title>
		<link>https://www.aarebogemagic.ch/2019/12/03/weiss-schwarz-tcg-for-magic-players/#comment-48</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2019 16:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have played a fair number of TCG  but to me, WS is quite unique. The concepts of Card Advantage/Field dominance is quite different from any other game since even level 0 can still get damage in (and this game is a damage race after all). This is very troubling for MtG players.

I&#039;ll just react to the pro &#038; cons sessions(would be too long otherwise).
PROS:
Gameplay/Non games --&#062; agreed that in a game of WS, both players get to really play the game. Even if you deck is &quot;countered&quot; by the opponents, you should always be able to do a little something (attack). The level mechanic also makes it that, very often, you&#039;ll end the game with both player at L3
Fewer formats --&#062; Mostly agreed, tough the JP versus US difference does exist, especially in France for some reasons... Tough overall I don&#039;t see it being too much of a hurdle when the player database is big like for mtg (people enjoy different format, some only play limited for example)
Updating decks --&#062; 100% Agreed
Brewers paradise --&#062; I disagree with this one. Most of the times, the cardpool is too small and it is easy to spot the best cards. It is even worst that Bushiroad very often archetypes within a set, basically dictating you what to play. There are a few series that have large cardpool and are opened tough (Bang Dream, Kantai, SAO,...)
Card quality --&#062; I find MtG quality to be much higher (WS cards fail at bend test), illustrations are also originals, whereas in WS you have to deal with ugly screenshots sometimes...

To me, the biggest appeal of this game are: the licence (let&#039;s be honest, it&#039;s what brings players to the game), the unique gameplay (which is all about deck control and probabilities), the fun it brings and finally accesibility (to be honest any TD+ x2 can decently compete against a meta deck imo)

CONS: 
Organized play / Community --&#062; Can&#039;t argue that... doesn&#039;t help that Bushiroad just don&#039;t seem to want the game to be really competitive (BO1 format is an example)
Card availability --&#062; Agreed, tough we are starting to get big name shops for US, but JP is still a big pain. 
English translations--&#062; Annoying but can cope with it I guess
„Spicy“ accesories and sets: I do admit that the visual of the game can just throw people off.

I am surprised you didn&#039;t touch on the &quot;luck&quot; factor. It&#039;s very easy look at this game and say it is all about chance. Triple cancel lethal into kill bla bla bla...More dedicated player will tell you this game is actually the opposite but still that idea is very dominant.
The economics of the game is bad I think. In my country, people mostly play JP, which local shops do not stock on. Combines this with the serie system where the most efficient thing is to buy the playset when it comes out, that means there are very few opportunities for trade and that the tournament price (usually boosters) don&#039;t interest people. That means they would rather freeplay for free than pay to play a tournament.... Lack of any limited format further enhance that and have the side effect of making a fair number of cards completely useless.

I do think WS is a great game to chill and/or if you want to see something new. If you want to be serious about a tcg, i am not so sure...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have played a fair number of TCG  but to me, WS is quite unique. The concepts of Card Advantage/Field dominance is quite different from any other game since even level 0 can still get damage in (and this game is a damage race after all). This is very troubling for MtG players.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just react to the pro &amp; cons sessions(would be too long otherwise).<br />
PROS:<br />
Gameplay/Non games &#8211;&gt; agreed that in a game of WS, both players get to really play the game. Even if you deck is &#8222;countered&#8220; by the opponents, you should always be able to do a little something (attack). The level mechanic also makes it that, very often, you&#8217;ll end the game with both player at L3<br />
Fewer formats &#8211;&gt; Mostly agreed, tough the JP versus US difference does exist, especially in France for some reasons&#8230; Tough overall I don&#8217;t see it being too much of a hurdle when the player database is big like for mtg (people enjoy different format, some only play limited for example)<br />
Updating decks &#8211;&gt; 100% Agreed<br />
Brewers paradise &#8211;&gt; I disagree with this one. Most of the times, the cardpool is too small and it is easy to spot the best cards. It is even worst that Bushiroad very often archetypes within a set, basically dictating you what to play. There are a few series that have large cardpool and are opened tough (Bang Dream, Kantai, SAO,&#8230;)<br />
Card quality &#8211;&gt; I find MtG quality to be much higher (WS cards fail at bend test), illustrations are also originals, whereas in WS you have to deal with ugly screenshots sometimes&#8230;</p>
<p>To me, the biggest appeal of this game are: the licence (let&#8217;s be honest, it&#8217;s what brings players to the game), the unique gameplay (which is all about deck control and probabilities), the fun it brings and finally accesibility (to be honest any TD+ x2 can decently compete against a meta deck imo)</p>
<p>CONS:<br />
Organized play / Community &#8211;&gt; Can&#8217;t argue that&#8230; doesn&#8217;t help that Bushiroad just don&#8217;t seem to want the game to be really competitive (BO1 format is an example)<br />
Card availability &#8211;&gt; Agreed, tough we are starting to get big name shops for US, but JP is still a big pain.<br />
English translations&#8211;&gt; Annoying but can cope with it I guess<br />
„Spicy“ accesories and sets: I do admit that the visual of the game can just throw people off.</p>
<p>I am surprised you didn&#8217;t touch on the &#8222;luck&#8220; factor. It&#8217;s very easy look at this game and say it is all about chance. Triple cancel lethal into kill bla bla bla&#8230;More dedicated player will tell you this game is actually the opposite but still that idea is very dominant.<br />
The economics of the game is bad I think. In my country, people mostly play JP, which local shops do not stock on. Combines this with the serie system where the most efficient thing is to buy the playset when it comes out, that means there are very few opportunities for trade and that the tournament price (usually boosters) don&#8217;t interest people. That means they would rather freeplay for free than pay to play a tournament&#8230;. Lack of any limited format further enhance that and have the side effect of making a fair number of cards completely useless.</p>
<p>I do think WS is a great game to chill and/or if you want to see something new. If you want to be serious about a tcg, i am not so sure&#8230;</p>
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		Von: Henning		</title>
		<link>https://www.aarebogemagic.ch/2019/12/03/weiss-schwarz-tcg-for-magic-players/#comment-46</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2019 19:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It looked interesting when you were playing, but the aesthetics totally put me off. No thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looked interesting when you were playing, but the aesthetics totally put me off. No thanks.</p>
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